Micro atx on a budget

I am looking at building a micro atx gaming rig for under 450. I am going to be replacing my almost 10 year old laptop with it. It will be running windows 7 pro 64 bit and I am trying to get the most bang for my buck. The 450 will be for the case and hardware within not including the os, hard drive (have a wd black 320 gb) or the power supply (have a 750). It has to be micro atx form factor because i will be taking it with me to lan party’s via my street bike.

Thanks much.

Hmmm Hang on this is tough

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwL3vV

Get some parts used. A 60 Gig SSD should be good for your root then storing everything on the HDD will suffice. Otherwise I can really only recommend getting a phenom build, which are still pretty great.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pMjdzM

I’m not saying look for that board, but that chipset and that chip go great together and any phenom X4 above a 955 black is good enough. If you somehow manage to find that board specifically I’ll be jealous.

personally i’d opt for one of the new hyperthreaded pentiums over fx… they’re like $60 and it’s essentially an i3 they just call it a pentium.

The older AMD chips are still getting optimized, thats why I recommend them.

And i like to reccomend modern intel chips because it’s much cheaper to upgrade by just dropping in a new cpu as apposed to trying to upgrade from fx which would take a new motherboard, new memory, and the cpu.

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I’m also weird, you know this.

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Thanks for the suggestion gives me somethings to play with.

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Question is: What are you going to play?

Because at that price, i’d get the AMD A12-9800 APU with an A320 AM4+ Board. That way you can upgrade down the line to a decent GPU and maybe the big R3/small R5, because AM4 will probably be around for a very long time. The Board is decent, as well as the APU. I haven’t found one in the U.S. though…they are only sold as Bundles, there are some in the EU for ~ 280 Euros including 8 GB Ram, but i’m not sure if they are shipped to the US.

Or you get this: https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-510-p127c-Desktop-Refurbished/dp/B01N4GCOLL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490354903

Same story, you’ll be able to upgrade to bigger CPU and a decent GPU down the line. Also, it’s cheaper, since at that price point, the mass production of these systems is considerably cheaper than building it yourself. Also, it’s a standard µATX Board and you even have an m.2 slot for SSDs. Funny thing is: Apparently this uses a standard SFX PSU, so you can even upgrade that down the line.

Personally i think, a self build system can’t beat a prebuild one at those prices. Unless you get on ebay and get some used stuff.

Fallout 4, civ… pick one…, mass effect Andromeda, doom, starbound and the the like

The issue lies in that isnt a micro atx form factor, that is a must. Thanks for the info though it gives me more to go on.